Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Kryptogal (Kate, if you like)'s avatar

People make fun of ultra-red Utah Republicans and Mormons, but they have been much more sane and thoughtful than the GOP in general and I respect them a lot for it. A lot of die-hard conservative lifelong Republicans voted for Biden in 2020 (or really I should say, voted against Trump), which I know was incredibly difficult for many of them to do. I have been impressed by their ability to consider their principles over mere tribalism or reflexive hard-wiring. I only mention this because I know you have LDS heritage, and they do seem to have quite a lot of intellectual horsepower in their stock.

It is really dismaying how impossible it is to talk to so many people, who are just die hard locked into their respective teams and can't even hear anything outside the party line (on both sides). It's like mental Teflon, impervious to anything that doesn't fit their pre-conceived notions. And even more annoying is when they're so desperate to categorize you (so they can decide whether to treat you as friend or enemy) that they'll just insist you're on one team or the other, when you don't give a crap about the teams. I don't get it.

Anyway, just wanted to give you props for thinking for yourself and sticking to your principles. Isn't it just so much fun when half the people you know insist you're a commie woke shitlib, while the other insist you're a fascist hard-core conservative? Lol.

I have been pretty unhappy with Democrats for 8 years now, and thought I would be voting third party again, but like you I've been impressed with the fairly (so far) flawless execution of Kamala's campaign. And have been heartened to see that they appear to have gotten the message loud and clear that they went overboard and lost their minds in 2020, that everyone is over the woke insanity, and that they need to turn back to being moderate. I know a lot of people want to hold onto understandable grievances or insist they can't/won't change their tune, but my rule is that you should always reward people who are moving in the direction you want them to, not punish them for it.

Expand full comment
Arturo Macias's avatar

I find increíble how complacent Americans are with the Non concession of the previous election.

Either the election was stolen (and the US President is an usurper) or it was not, and Trump is an aspiring usurper. Discussions on policy are incredibly complacent when the election is about legitimacy.

https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/ekM9jQqXq8D8qa2fP/united-states-2024-presidential-election-so-help-you-god

Being a “republican” begins by understanding this!

Expand full comment
58 more comments...

No posts