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Michael A Alexander's avatar

Great article!

Jeff calls for deporting the criminals. I assume by this he does not mean people guilty of the misdemeanor offense of unauthorized entry, (If such "criminals" deserve expulsion, then so does the felon in the White House).

I have no problem with expelling convicted criminals, if it poses no threat to the US (I would oppose deporting a Mexican drug cartel leader serving time in US prison as this would just enable his return to crime). This was standard policy before Trump was first in office. I support creating a path to citizenship for illegals who have lived a long time here--assuming new entrants are prevented from entering illegally.

There was actually the compromise that was being worked out a couple of decades ago. The issue was the immigration hawks wanted assurance that we would control the borders before they would agree to some form of citizenship conversion. Did not happen. And the experience under Biden showed Democrats could not be trusted on the issue. I'm a liberal Democrat and I was appalled when it dug up the stats in border crossing for a discussion right here on Substack.

But I see now the border problem has been solved. Almost no border crossings.

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I don't know what Trump did, but he has solved the immigration problem. If he was a normal politician, he would be making the rounds touting his solution to a crisis that seemed insurmountable a year and a half ago, I mean just look t that graph. A year ago, we were being told that we needed to pass an expensive bill to deal with the influx of migrants across the southern border.

But that is not what Trump is doing. Rather he is performing extraordinary rendition (ER) of "criminals" inside the US, just as we started doing decades ago with terrorists outside of the US. What's next, drone assassinations? Obama ended ER and ramped up drone strikes begun under Bush.

Why stir the pot with these ER actions? What is the objective here?

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Harrison Lewis's avatar

It’s become a real problem when Americans feel they have to change their views just to be able to participate in Democracy. Or to pretend they’re somebody they’re not just to be included in the debate.

As you thoughtfully describe, the reality of our lives and the world around us is often filled with nuance. Should our views on reality not reflect those nuances?

As it is true in life, so too is it true in policy. There is no such thing as all-benefit and no-cost legislation. There are no policies with only intended outcomes and no unintended consequences. There are always trade-offs, in life as in policy decisions.

To govern may be to choose, but the choice need not always be between one extreme or the other. Balance *is* a choice in its own right.

It is an affirmative position to be advocated for, one to be sought for its own merits. It is not a mushy space of indecision and confusion. It is a purposeful goal and selection in its own right. An often wise and sensible conclusion to reach.

A state of balance has the virtue of reflecting both points of view, giving each side a stake in the outcome. Drawing on the wisdom and perspectives of each side and leaving out what does not fit. This is not crazy. It’s how policymaking used to work.

Our politics will never change so long as people who take such a view as yours feel like it is not their place to say so. It will never get better if people feel that balance is not something they can advocate for and also be heard.

Stay nuanced, Jeff. It suits you. And it suits our system of government too.

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